Software Engineers? real ones?

Anyone who attended an Engineering School for Software Engineering, I would like to hear about your experiences and the merit of what you learned. I often like to propose to people that software development should be following an engineering approach, as opposed to craftsmanship or "artistry', but I am not an engineer, I took Comp Sci in University (a long, long time ago, in what now feels like a different universe).

So, please use the comments section for this post to educate me on real Software Engineering, it will be greatly appreciated.

Are we past the period of "Agile vs. Traditional"arguments?

Are we past the period of "Agile vs. Traditional"arguments?

Using Twitter and various industry newsletters, I try to keep up on the state of systems delivery methodologies and techniques (or whatever noun you like to describe these things). For a long time in the first decade of this century, you could hardly go a day without someone weighing in on the "Agile vs. Traditional"topic; in the early days, it got quite emotional and vitriolic at times. The debates and discussions got more civilized over time, and now I see little or no debate.

So, did Agile "win"? Or has it been absorbed into some new overall way of doing things? I still see many articles on Agile, but they seem to be more on how to make it work rather than why you should use it.

Let me propose this "new way" as follows: we need to move our focus from agile systems development to developing agile systems. Thoughts?